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Probate and You: Survival Tips

 

In this session of Meeting with the Masters, we have Masters Tom Bernath and Jason Gaudy detailing the probate process and covering the big mistakes we make when handling a probate.  We’ll break down the biggest points here…

First things first, there are only two ways to avoid a probate altogether: stay alive forever, or not own property when you die.  While this seems impossible, there’s actually a few ways to do this:

  • Joint tenancy allows property to automatically pass to the survivor upon death
  • Community property with right of survivor-ship
  • Trusts or family partnerships make it so the decedent does not own the property individually, and the successor(s) takes control of the property upon death.  Revocable Transfer on Death deeds are some of the easiest ways around a probate.
  • Revocable Transfer on Death deeds are a simple, inexpensive way to transfer real estate to someone else upon your death. They work similarly to a life insurance policy or a payable on death account at a bank because the asset passes to your named beneficiary upon your death outside the probate system.
    • This is revocable at any point before death and is strongly suggested over an irrevocable transfer should something happen.  RTDDs have come into question as they have been used to quickly avoid a probate on a dying person’s estate.
    • They have led to many of the stories where someone comes in and convinces an elderly person to sign away everything and leave it all to one party out of nowhere.  As such, they are difficult to insure, sometimes difficult to prove the competency of the deed’s signer, and all documentation must be present and in order for it to be permissible.  More information is supplied below as an image.

 

 

Now, usually a client will be coming to you because they need a probate and not because they managed to find a way to live forever, so we’re going to cover the steps in a probate:

A potential client steps into your office and either has or does not have a will.  If they have a will, there’s a pretty good chance that an executor has been appointed to manage the estate already.  If not, you’ll have to work together to get an administrator appointed to manage the estate.

From there, we have to get the executor/administrator petitioned and a hearing will be held in a Court to be granted authority;  there are two types of authority in a probate: full authority and limited authority.  Generally, it’s best to just go for full authority.  Full authority gives the Public Administrator (PA) the power to handle the majority of the estate process it does not mean the PA can do anything they wish,they must act in the best interests of the estate and their actions can be subject to examination later on by the court or a beneficiary but they have the authority to sell personal property, stocks, and real estate with little delay.

Despite its namesake, full authority does not mean autonomy or even really mean “full” authority.  What it actually means is that the Public Administrator will have to submit something called a notice of proposed action which gives the beneficiaries a chance to object to an aforementioned action before it goes through if they have reason to believe it is not in best interest of the estate.  Action can only be made if no objections are made within the 15 days.  Limited authority gives no authority, virtually everything must be taken through the court and every step must be followed precisely and court guidance must be followed consistently which makes for a significantly longer and much more painful process.

Once authority has been decided, Letters of Administration are issued by the Court.  Then comes a creditors period where creditors are notified and given 4 months to respond before we can get to the appraisal and inventory.  From there we have the final petition for distribution with the court.  During the petitioning phase, escrow can be opened and the property can start to be sorted out.  We have the hearing next and as soon as that is completed, we can close escrow almost immediately if prepared to.  The whole process generally takes a year assuming there are no major disputes or conflicts with the administrator and beneficiaries.

Important Probate Code Content and Documents:

  • Independent Administration of Estates Act (IAEA) (Probate Code §§10400-10592)- this covers the aspect of full and limited authority, detailing everything from checking the box on probate forms for authority to exactly what a PA can and cannot do with their authority.
  • Real Property of Small Value ($50,000) (P.C. §13200)- Six months have passed since death.  The gross value of real property in the decedent’s estate located in California does not exceed $50,000 (happens rarely, usually with out-of-state residents whose only California real estate is a timeshare or vacant land in a remote location).  A form entitled “Affidavit re Real Property of Small Value”, along with an appraisal must be filed with the Court Clerk, who signs the certificate on the form.
  • Surviving Spouse’s Right to Dispose of Community Property (P.C. §13540)- 40 days have passed since death, the property was community property, the surviving or Administrator must record an affidavit stating that the statutory requirements have been satisfied. This allows the spouse to dispose of community property as they see fit by means of sale, lease, mortgage, etc.  The procedure does not apply if a third party records a notice claiming an interest in the property. (P.C. §13541.)
  • Decree of Final Distribution- A final judgment issued by the probate court that is conclusive as to the rights of the legatees, devisees and all beneficiaries and details their respective shares.

Things to keep in mind:

  • The term “based on the fact pattern” is going to be key.  If something comes into question or becomes an issue, but all procedure so far has been followed carefully and every party has been transparent with information, the court is likely to continue to permit actions.  If it appears that any procedure has been ignored or it seems that some things are being handled below the board, this will slow down the process and increase risk all around.
  • The average cost of a probate proceeding is between 5 and 10 percent.
  • In the state of California it is possible to do an Order Determining Succession to Real Property, which creates a simplified probate proceeding.  The only way to do this is if the gross value of the decedent’s real and personal property does not exceed $100,000 and a probate has not yet been filed.
  • An Affidavit of Death of Surviving Spouse can rarely pass in lieu of a probate
  • Community Property with Right of Survivor-ship is a good option if no trust has been made.  This gives the benefits of community property and joint tenancy, meaning a probate can be avoided and there are additional tax beneficial incentives to do so.  However, as the property is given to the survivor, it is no longer community property upon death and must be managed from there to avoid a probate.  Estate tax exemption is $5,000,000 with a 35% estate tax for any amount over that limit.
  • A court order given in a different state is not valid in the state of California without an ancillary probate.
  • Just because a deed has been recorded does not mean that it cannot be objected or fought.  A deed being recorded simply means that it has been documented properly, not that it is necessarily valid.
  • A deed that is void for any reason such as fraud, undue influence, duress, mistake etc. passes no title.  In such a case, there would
    arguably be no bonafide purchaser.  Therefore, the deed would be void, pass no title, and the property would be subject to the
    return to the estate.
  • Living trusts work similar to a will, and they do not protect you like a corporation will.

Common Mistakes and Things to Avoid:

  • Picking the wrong PA  for a probate is the worst possible mistake to make.  You want to look for someone who is good at peacekeeping.  Choosing the wrong Administrator can make every single step of the probate more difficult as there may be constant dispute and therefore delay even with full authority.
  • Talk your client out of doing a probate loan.  It just isn’t worth it.
  • Never, ever use an irrevocable living trust.  All it does is make sure that nothing can be fixed if something were to happen with the appointed trustee(s).
  • Avoid a short sale probate, and furthermore there should ideally be greater than $50,000 in total equity  involved.
  • If a property is in foreclosure, your time very limited if there is a trust deed sale date already, proceed with caution on these.

 

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BK & RE Transaction- Meetings w Masters TTG Edition

Meeting With Masters

On Feb 15th we were able to continue on in our series on Meeting with Masters at Red Hill Country Club. In this conversation we broke down the nuiances of Ch 7 & 13 and how it impacts your tranasction, and your Clients.

Key Points

  • Timelines
  • Implications
  • Ch 7
  • Ch 13
  • Order of Avoidance
  • Title Implications
  • How to work through BK
  • Foreclosure Implications

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Guest Speakers: 

Tom Bernath– Advisory Title Officer Ticor Title

Derek May– Bankruptcy Attorney

Host: Ryan J Orr- VP Fidelity National Title

On the podcasts, we did a similar event with a different attorney, so if you are BK student, you can feel free to check them both out and compare.

My team and I truly believe in being a resource! Lean on us!

“I Hate Running!” Have you ever said this? #LifeHappens

Wow… What is it about running that is so bad? How it get such a bad rap? Interesting conversation right?

Is it because its tough and takes effort? Is it because the first 2-3 miles kinda sucks? Yeah I said sucks. But I got your attention..

Isn’t that kinda like life? When you get started at most tasks it is soooooo hard, and it takes a ton of effort to get the ball moving. However, when we stay with it and keep ourselves doing the right things consistently, that things get moving a bit easier, and the momentum builds.

Staying Consistent builds momentum!

Wild Right? Crazy thought!

That such as in running our bodies become better conditioned, we learn from mistakes and we are better for ourselves, our families, and our businesses!

Confession: I used to be one of those guys that said, “I hate running, and the only thing that felt better about it, is when we stopped!” My dad you to say something similar, and would say, “Banging your head against the wall and running are very similar, both feel better when you stop!” -Jim Orr

However, I have come to realize that if you can carve 30-40 minutes several times a week out of your schedule to run, IT IS INCREDIBLE… Even if its a WOG!!!

Screen Time….

We have so much screen time anymore, that its incredible to to unplug, and take the time for ourselves. This time is refreshing “ME Time” that allows us to take deep breaths, and de-stress. I have also found it as great uninterrupted time for prayer, and or take catch up on books I have wanted to read. I leverage www.Audible .com to listen to the books on my headphones. ( Nothing wrong with learning, growing and becoming stronger all at the same time.

Questions:

  1. Have you had a similar experience?
  2. Whats holding you back?
  3. Are you at a plateau, looking for a breakthrough? (willing to attempt)

I want your feedback, let me know what you think?

Make yourself a better YOU!

 

Local Icon Randall Lewis speaks at WEREP!

West End Real Estate Professionals hosts Randall for a “State of the IE” on housing and viewpoints for future!

 

On Friday, January 19th we had the pleasure to hear from Randall Lewis on his insights for the future of housing and projects in the Inland Empire! For the last 15 years or so, Randall has come out 1x per year to give us his insights and updates the projects the Lewis Corporation is working on. We love his talks because they are real, help us in directing our sails for the next 12-24 months.

Average attendance at WEREP.org is 75-100 Real Estate professionals, and when Randall comes, well, we bust out the room, averaging 300-345 people. So that should give some insight on how people value his opinion!

I will include here some nuggets from his talk, also let you know that we have the full video of the talk on our www.Facebook.com/TeamTitleGuy page for you to reference! While you are there, like our page!

  • “Nobody knows what inning we are in, and maybe this recovery is a double header… Feels confident about 2018, 2019…
  • Buy now, but be thoughtful… Buy if possible while interest rates are lower..
  • Density is going to be a big deal moving forward… as much as 17-25 units to an acre.
  • Inland Empire, Hottest market in the States, maybe the world in the industrial markets, and big boxes buildings..
  • Gotta keep housing affordable…
  • Trend in housing still showing more renters… however, goal is still homeownership.. Single Family rental market to be strong..

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Posted January 19th 8:40 am…

Be Intentional…

Its a new year and new opportunities are before us. HOW WE RESPOND is up to us.

You see this blog post is simple and based on a philosophy my dad would always tell us…. ” Absolutely, you have a choice, however, what you decide will have implications.” -Jim Orr

You see this concept transfers to ALL areas of life and I am continually reminded of this almost daily.

We need to be careful as to what we allow into our life and how we allow for interruptions! YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE!!! We are told its the most precious asset we have and that we cannot get it back. When we allow other things to take our time, it most likely means its taking time from another area.

Morale of the story, CHOOSE WISELY! (as Yoda would say)

  • What things matter most to you?
  • What are your time hogs?
  • What do you want to do most?
  • What brings you joy?

NOW… Schedule your time out and make it happen!

Not gonna lie, this iOS something I have struggled with, identified and I am battling to make this happen! And I guarantee its UNCOMFORTABLE!

Follow-Up on previous blog post- Unplug The First Hour..

I have been successful about 80% of the time and they have been some of my best mornings! Best mornings so far have been with an audio book, and a run. Less distractions and more thought provoking morning starts. Try it out? Let me know your feedback!

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